German Business Morale Forecast Slightly Higher As Producer Prices Wane
Have Frankfurt and the rest of Germany passed the darkest point for inflation? (Photo: Culp)

- Headline reading projected at 85.3 points (prev 84.3)

- Expectations set to improve

- Little change likely for views on present situation

- Plans for caps on power and gas could boost mood

- Data due Thursday at 09:00 GMT/10:00 CET

 

 

By Eric Culp, European Editor

LiveSquawk News

@EricCulpLS

 

 

22 November 2022 | 20:00 GMT

 

FRANKFURT  –  German managers are expected to voice a touch more optimism about the weeks ahead despite double-digit inflation and rising interest rates after the country announced a surprise fall in producer prices last month.

 

Economists said the headline business climate index for Germany due Thursday from the country’s Ifo economics institute is expected to rise to 85.3 points this month from the October reading of 84.3, which would have been an increase if the pollster had not revised its estimate for previous month.

 

The expectations component of this month’s index – a measure of the coming six months – is forecast higher at 77.0 versus the 75.6 mark set in October, and this month’s current assessment reading is expected to slip incrementally to 94.0 from 94.1.

 

Some late respondents to the most recent poll might express more hope about the future following Monday’s surprise decline in German producer prices, which fell 4.2% on the month in October, the first drop since May 2020. Leading the way down were costs for electricity and natural gas, which have skyrocketed since the Ukraine war began in February.

 

Mixed views

Prior to Monday’s producer price announcement, Nomura was predicting less confidence among Germany’s corporate leaders. “We expect firm sentiment to have, on the whole, deteriorated. We believe that firms’ expectations have likely stabilised, and we forecast a print of 75”, which would be a minor decline of six-tenths.

 

“As the ongoing energy and cost of living crises bite,” Nomura said, “we expect firms’ sentiment about current conditions to worsen, and we forecast it to fall to 92 from 94.1 previously.”

 

In a note predating the PPI release, HSBC sounded more upbeat. “The Ifo business climate should show signs of an improvement as fears of a gas rationing over the winter have eased, wholesale energy prices have dropped and the government provided more details about the announced gas price cap.”

 

Media reports say Berlin plans to set gas and electricity price limits in March of next year retroactively to January for consumers and businesses. The caps range from EUR 0.07-0.14 per kWh depending on whether the source is gas or electricity and the user is a private household, small business, or large company, according to the reports.

 

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